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Vidyasagar Talks on TRUTH


Vidyasagar Talks on TRUTH

Monday 11 August 2008

Snippets and Q&A

Sleep does not exist in dream
Sleep does not exist in dream. Dream does not exist in waking. Waking does not exist in sleep, Then what is existing? If you enquire deeply, you will find these things appear and disappear on consciousness. They are false states appearing in Consciousness . One is conscious of these states except sleep which one says he had felt it or became conscious of it in waking state. Therefore, Consciousness alone exists in all these states and without it man does not exist at all. The irony is man gives prominence to these false states and does not recognize the permanent existence of Consciousness.

Food and thoughts
You would have noticed when you are hungry thoughts slow down. Have you ever thought as to why this is happening? You take food and the hunger disappears and the flow of thoughts is more.There is a link between food and thought. Or I would say thought is food. For thoughts to survive food is necessary. Other wise it will disappear. This is the meaning of fasting on festivals. But who is bothered to know all this.


In sleep there is neither hunger nor thoughts. What has happened? Have you ever tried to find out this disappearance and its cause? At that point you have existed. Other wise you would not have woken up. But you were not aware about your own existence and simply go on telling ‘I had a sound sleep’. Who is the one who experienced this sleep? Find out. That is your job and not hoarding wealth which is useless. The one who does not know his own existence goes on a spree of possession of articles of sophistication and luxury and dies one day not knowing himself. What an idiot is he, the man?

Qus: How did you realize yourself?
Ans: I don’t know whether I am realized or not. Something happened and led me into silence for years. I don’t want to bluff by saying I went to Himalayas and did Tapas. But one tip for you here. I have been going on enquiring about myself for several decades with no one to guide. All the Swamijis I came across were great bluffers, except three. You will be surprised that I never asked them any questions and they never answered. But a communication was going on in silence which I never knew. I used to sit with them for several days not opening my mouth and not spending a single paisa on them. But I continued with my Meditation for years. All these require a tremendous amount of spade work. The worst is not getting distracted by the outer world. The second thing is the false ‘I’ should disappear.

Qus: Is there a guided approach?
Ans: Yes. You need a real Master or Teacher. It is for you to find out who is the real Teacher.

Qus: Then, how do I know myself?
Ans: Don’t you know yourself just now. Your existence is known to you. You cannot say I don’t know my existence. Because you are conscious of yourself. But you wrongly identify yourself with the body and not with the Consciousness.You unnecessarily trouble yourself by imagining that you are a separate entity and start drawing a boundary around you which becomes your prison. This boundary and the separateness are only thoughts, just an illusion. Can there be a meaning for illusion? It is something like asking what is the meaning of a rose flower.

Know you are love
First know that you are Love. No need to go outside and search. Search within yourself. You will find it. Finding Love in you is much more precious than anything in the world. But you get attached to sundry things in life on the basis on thoughts which does not belong to you. Unless you know Love you cannot know what life is. That means you have not lived and will die one day like a mosquito.Do not seek love, instead look at each individual feelings that you have and ask yourself is this love or is this a path to love? Do not judge but simply observe.just patiently look and let it reveal itself.


Love is not attachment, nor is it detachment.
Love does not contain fear nor is it pleasure.
There is beauty in love,
There is freedom in love,
There is understanding in love, (JK)


When you have removed all feelings/concepts/ideas which are not love, then what remains is love. IN SHORT YOU ARE LOVE. You cannot say I am in love with somebody.

Saturday 14 June 2008

TRUTH Explained

Science and Spirituality                                         
Science accepts nothing exists. It says whatever appears to exist are nothing but an interplay of energy. (A sort of illusion just like a mirage) Science took three hundred years or so to tell this.

Our great Saints have said this thousands of years ago. To know this, one has to get rid of the ego which is nothing but thoughts thrust upon without one’s knowledge. The idea of a false I or me or mine has to be deeply inquired. One who does it and finds the falsity of this ego, knows Himself. You can give a name to him as a Saint or Sage or the one who has Realized Himself or a Self Realized man.

There is a beautiful cinema song of a Tamil cinema of mid sixties which is as follows:

Yen endra Kelvi ketkamal vazhkai illai
Nan endra ennam konda manithan vazhanthathillai

Every one enjoyed the music and did not dwell deep into the meaning of this song. It means with out questioning one has not lived a life and the one who said “I” am the doer has never lived. The lyric was by the great Kannadasan.

There is another poem by Barathiar which appeared in one of the recent Tamil films which goes as follows:

“Naanum vor kanavo, indha gnalamum poi thano”

This means “Am I a dream and is the world  false”

The body is nothing but a condensed form of energy (an illusion created by mind which is itself energy) which is made into movement by thoughts (which again is a form of energy) by creating an illusionary ego or a false “I”. This false I succumbs to thoughts in not knowing itself and goes on endlessly till it knows itself and its source. This appears to happen in time, which does not exist and appears as a very long period of time which one calls as many years. (this may appear to you as contradictory statement). Sarvam Sakthi mayam jagath. This means that every thing one sees as existing as objects are only energy which goes into an illusion of matter. This Illusion itself is the mind. This mind again goes into an illusion of thoughts and senses which is housed in an illusory thing called body which appears to arise in the morning which one says as waking and disappears in the night which one says as sleep. In this so called sleep only unconsciousness prevails and develops into a dream which appears as a fluid state and further goes into a deeper interactive dream which one calls as waking. The dream state is a semi conscious one and the so called waking state is a non conscious one. Occasionally one becomes conscious and again this non consciousness screens it or hides it due to conditioned thoughts. One has to learn to be always conscious and discover the real ‘I’ in him. If one is always conscious the real ‘I’ is automatically revealed.

What ever that appears to exist are only illusions or dreams or imaginations of the mind which is nothing but a part of energy which arises as a Maya from “What is or Consciousness”. This energy is called as Shakthi/mind and Consciousness is called Ullam. Crossing this in Tamil is “Kada”. Therefore, it was termed as Kada –vullam = Kadavul. Neither this Ullam nor Shakthi has a form, name or attributes. The whole universe is nothing but Consciousness out of which mind arises as a shadow and considers itself as energy which gets into interplay of illusions through matter and thoughts. Now tell me whether you exist as a person or it is only a bundle of thoughts.

It takes a life time for the so called man to realize himself. For many it may take several life times. It is difficult for thoughts or mind to understand this Truth and retaliates. It is not a person who is refuting all this. It is not you who is rejecting it. See the beauty and mystery of Existence. Unless one gets into deep Dhyanam and enters into Samadhi and simultaneously makes inquiries about himself it is impossible for
one to know Himself and Happiness  He may be going on blabbering all sorts of rubbish things not knowing himself. The world is full of such elements leading to wars, misery, selfishness, comparisons, demands, expectations etc. If every one starts knowing himself the world would become a paradise. But

the so called man is making it a hell and we are part of this but say “I am happy with money and other sophistications”- which are the products of the mind as illusion and perceived as real by it and not by a man who is himself an illusion of the mind and thoughts.

The great saint Thirumoolar said “Ondrey Kulam Oruvaney Dhevan”. This means that the whole world is one which springs out of Dhevan. He means Consciousness as Dhevan. Every thing is one – non dual. But man thinks he sees every thing as multiplicities. The question is who is the seer.  It is not the man who is the seer. He is just a body producing thoughts and emotions and there is no seer.

Today’s science accepts that there are worlds within worlds and universes within universes, multi dimensional and non dual and you exist simultaneously in all these universes appearing and disappearing at an unimaginable rapidity which produces a three dimensional and reality effect. The speed is 300000*300000*mass. Einstein was dumb found when he discovered this formula and announced his theory of relativity and the quantum theory.

This may be too much on my part to make one understand his reality when he is absolutely lost in illusions. Just a “try” on my part to pull out this ignorant man. But I am not certain whether he will understand all this. But I am certain he will rubbish this and throw it off.

Always remember that everything that happens is only a dream and not real. Only the Truth or What is, is real and all the rest are illusions of an illusory mind which are only dreams of the mind. It is like seeing a cinema and commenting on the hero of the picture as if it is happening in real life. Is it true or illusion?